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« on: October 22, 2004, 12:33:49 PM »

Another container project complete.  1280 sq ft 3 BR, 4 x 40' to do it.   As always the first one is more expensive than the next.  I will ask the administrator if he can post the photo (I can't figure it out).

Our goal was to meet or exceed codification, not bypass it, but still meet other codes (CSC) so that we could still ship it internationally.

Starting on the 2 story narrow lot one next month.   Its amazing what alittle putty, paint, and a bucket of money can accomplish.  Please do not hammer me on arch, my entire lifes work has been in intermodal/containerization.
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2004, 02:02:50 PM »

mr cross,
do you have a plan for this home to be available to the nation, or just in Charleston area? do you have the resources to design custom container homes or are you sticking to the 4 x 40 plan?
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2004, 07:13:30 PM »

ezekial,

If you haven't seen my container designs click here and check them out. I'm working on some standard designs, but have some custom designs in the pipeline for specific clients. And thanks for the nomination.

click on designSTUDIO in my signature to see my homepage at LiveModern.com

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2004, 10:17:47 PM »

Please see David Cross's container project in this other thread for further info. Admin

http://fabprefab.com/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=176
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2004, 11:21:38 AM »

mark

i have seen your designs, and do like them (you emailed me the floorplans for the containers, and we talked on the phone). i am moving more towards a courtHOUSE design at this point. my dream would be to replicate Shigeru Ban's 2/5 House, but cheap (containers?).

if anyone has any suggestions on how to do this best, let me know.

i just got a proposal from a modular company for $115k, using the general layout of the 2/5 House, which is actually quite large for my tiny budget constraints (2520 sf). we are more than ready to get started, as we want to adopt a(or some) child(ren) as soon as we move in. the longer it takes, the longer they sit in an orphanage in Liberia.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2004, 01:16:57 PM »

ezekial,

Drop me another email. I may havea solution for you. I'm moving forward on a couple of different designs (the courtHOUSE, an s-CON02.5, the wedgeHOUSE duplex, and the surfHOUSE [wich is another nice design although not really shown]) and may be able to make something happen for you in terms of your budget and space needs. I'd love to pursue the courtHOUSE design further and with a specific client in mind. Many of the designs I have are sort of straightforward versions of designs that can be readily adapted to suit a particular client's program and budget.

I'd love to talk with you more about what you are looking to do.

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Mark
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2004, 01:19:56 PM »

Our process is a manufacturing and engineering perspective that supports an international as well as domestic market place.  Our "designs" relate more to "footprints and # of stories", as well as the structural aspect of what is being done.    The ones in hand right now are the 4 unit ranch you have seen, 2 Story Charleston singles, 2 story quadplexes, and a beach house similar to the ranch only with full porches and a its 2 stories.

What ever you want to accomplish these ISBUs can participate in matching conventional costs while providing superior features in other areas (i.e. 2 roofs on the ranch, the Hip roof we constructed, and the original container roofs, oops ISBU roof).

I think we spoke this a.m.  I will mail out the lit we discussed.

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2004, 02:28:19 PM »

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and a beach house similar to the ranch only with full porches and a its 2 stories.


David,

I am interested in building some form of modular/prefab home in the outer banks of North Carolina.  As you may know, the conditions there are violent at times.  How do you think a container-based home will hold up under oceanfront conditions?  About 2 years ago, I converted a 20" ISO shipping container into an electronics enclosure for the government.  As I recall, solar incidence and rust were big considerations.

Could I see your plans for the 2 story beach home quoted above?
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2004, 04:01:42 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2004, 05:49:43 PM »

MaxPower,

Do give David a call. I've talked with him extensively about his capacity for modifying containers and feel his shop is the best suited to do such a thing for a residential project. He does however need designs to work from. I've talked with him about implementing some of my designs such as these:



I think the two story version could be a very nice project for a beach house. I have visions of the one story version for my home town of Port Aransas, Tx (on the Gulf Coast) with a "green roof" planted with sedums and other succulents. Both David and I are very interested in working together. Maybe your project could be the impetus to get us there.

As far as shipping containers go, I think they are ideal for dealing with a coastal environment. You can get CorTen containers which will hold up nicely under the constant corrosive nature of the coastal areas, especially if painted with a high quality epoxy paint. The containers are PLENTY strong to deal with the wind loads, so that is hardly an issue. I'm working on other roof configs for these projects as well as giving thought to other cladding systems to camoflauge the container-like nature if need be (although I am attracted to the raw industrial nature of the container itself.

If any of this intrigues you, drop me an email with your contact info and we can chat about it.

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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2004, 08:10:48 AM »

I've been working on another container design based on a friends need for a minimal dwelling on land that he recently purchased on the island of Roatan Honduras. The impetus was to construct a self-contained unit that can be used to safely store his belongings while away for 6 month stretches, as well as provide a small kitchen/bath and a living/bed space. It is also seen as a starter home to be added onto with conventional techiniques as the need and money arise.



This unit size will also probably be revised for a Bed and Breakfast project that will get underway in the new year. We'd be looking to arrange 6 similar units on a sloping site in such a way as to provide "private" glassed in spaces (similar to the porch) as well as private patios. It should be an intriguing project nonetheless.

David has also mentioned to me that we attempt to get a bunch of like-minded container interested folks together down in Tampa to tour his facility. He promises lots of interesting things to show us (much of which he can't publish here, but can show in person). Please respond to this post with a show of hands of folks that would be interested in such a get-together.

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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2004, 08:15:50 AM »

I will be in Orlando for a week in April05. Its an easy shot down to Tampa from there. I'll have an inflexible window that corresponds to school break. If that works for others, great, otherwise I can pop in on David by myself (and write off a portion of my trip!)
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2004, 10:02:16 AM »

>>hand raised enthusiastically<<

it's just a 3 hr ride in the car for me to tampa.
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2004, 11:51:58 PM »

Mark,

You should preconfigure these puppies with Ezekial's (or rather his family's)murphy bed/bookcase. What a great fit for this design.

Also, I didn't realize that this small structure even had room for a bathroom. I assumed it was something along the lines of Rocio's camphouse!

I think if you designed a modular siding system for this, you may have the new equivalent of a prefabmodern Airstream.
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2004, 07:36:51 AM »

I'm definitely considering a side-fold single bed, that can act as either a built-in couch or a bed, they could even be bunked if the need arose. The bathroom is merely a sink, a toilet, and a tiled room with a shower head on the wall, but there is a nice window (to look out to the ocean view while in the shower)

I really love the terra-cotta cladding tiles that were used on the house of earth project that was shown in Sydney. Michael has some pics posted in another thread. I've always liked the terra-cotta cladding, but it is pretty expensive, so probably wouldn't work for this application (unless someone was willing to spend the money). I'm sort of partial to the industrial aesthetic of the container, but realize that many folks wouldn't be. I think hardi-plank attached with adhesive is the quickest and easiest way of cladding the thing, especially if the corner blocks are to be left exposed for lifting and connecting to other units. If you eschew the corner blocks, the sky is the limit with cladding.

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